Ben and Brian discuss what it's like working with non-technical people or for a fundamentally non-technical company and how to navigate that as a programmer. They share their experiences with that at previous and current jobs as well as their best practices for advancing your ideas and showcasing your skills to a non-technical audience.
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02:54- Feeling valued and having context on a software team
11:24- Interacting with non-technical team members
32:48- Introducing tech to your non-tech employer
42:47- The tech wizard fallacy