Model View Conversation

America's Premier Tech Education Podcast

About the show

Ben Gohlke and Brian Gates discuss how to get started and get ahead in the ever changing industry of software development. Current senior developers in their respective fields and former bootcamp instructors, Brian and Ben help to decipher the myriad options available to new engineers just starting out and how to navigate the educational and institutional challenges of the tech industry.

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  • Episode 20: The Differently Technical

    June 10th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 1 min

    Welcome to the season finale of Model View Conversation! We hope you've enjoyed learning and growing with us. It's been almost a year since we started the show, which is hard to believe. Even though this is the end of season 1, don't worry. We've got...

  • Episode 19: Ways to Learn, Part II

    May 27th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  51 mins 50 secs

    The guys return to finish their discussion of the different ways you can engage in learning about programming. This time they delve into online courses, bootcamp and other concentrated learning environments, and the importance of building stuff on...

  • Episode 18: Ways to Learn, Part I

    May 13th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  46 mins 30 secs

    Ben and Brian discuss many different ways you can get started and learn about programming. So many ways in fact, we had to break it up into two parts! In this one we talk about books, online tutorials, and podcasts. If none of those work for you, fear...

  • Episode 17: The Invention of Fire

    April 28th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 25 secs

    Ben and Brian discuss what it's like working with non-technical people or for a fundamentally non-technical company and how to navigate that as a programmer. They share their experiences with that at previous and current jobs as well as their best...

  • Episode 16: Not an Imposter

    April 1st, 2019  |  Season 1  |  54 mins 24 secs

    Ben and Brian discuss the important phenomenon of imposter syndrome and how it can create real roadblocks for developers in their career advancement. They discuss their own struggles with it both as juniors and even now as senior devs and what can be...

  • Episode 15: We Were All Young Once

    March 19th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 15 mins

    On this very special episode of Model View Conversation, the guys interview one of Ben's former iOS students, Shane Nelson, to see what he's been up to since graduation and how his career has progressed. Shane also has some questions for the hosts on...

  • Episode 14: Don't Cross the Streams

    March 4th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  22 mins 9 secs

    We have an exciting announcement we wanted to share. This is not like our usual episodes, but don't worry, we'll be back with our regularly scheduled programming next time. Please consider checking out our livestreams if live coding and seeing the...

  • Episode 13: The Colonel's Secret Recipe

    February 18th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  55 mins 38 secs

    Ben and Brian talk about where and how they do their daily work and offer advice about how to stay focused when working in potentially busy environments. They end by venturing into a couple of the more popular programming religious wars (spaces ftw!)....

  • Episode 12: Interview with an Interviewer

    February 4th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  59 mins 15 secs

    Ben and Brian are joined this time by their friend and former colleague David Rogers. He's a senior web developer and educator based in Durham, North Carolina. They cover everything from his career history so far to his extensive experience vetting...

  • Episode 11: Engineer Your Life Habits

    January 21st, 2019  |  Season 1  |  45 mins 40 secs

    Ben and Brian ring in the new year (a little late) by discussing how they approach new year's resolutions and how they might apply that kind of goal making to their professional ambitions. Brian suggests breaking up your yearly goals into more...

  • Episode 10: Done is Better Than Complicated

    January 7th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  49 mins 19 secs

    You need experience to be considered for a position, but how do you get it? Working on your own project is a great way to prove your skillset and showcase your unique vision. So what do you work on? How do you show off your work? What size project...

  • Episode 9: For Sixty-Five, You Get Deluxe Me

    December 24th, 2018  |  Season 1  |  56 mins 29 secs

    Ben and Brian tackle the tricky subject of job salary negotiation. How do you even start? What is on the table and what isn't (hint: everything is)? How do to you navigate this process when you don't have much leverage in the industry? Be sure to...

  • Episode 8: The Jeopardy Effect

    December 10th, 2018  |  Season 1  |  59 mins

    The guys dig into the ever scary topic of technical interviews. They share war stories about good (and bad) interviews they've been on themselves, how they'd like to steer interviews into more productive discussions, and even provide some useful...

  • Episode 7: Rounds Up to Three

    November 26th, 2018  |  Season 1  |  54 mins 33 secs

    Ben and Brian continue their discussion of how to get your first (or second) job as a new developer. This time it's all about resumes and applications. They discuss their own resumes and how they typically approach the average dev job posting. Do's...

  • Episode 6: Get to Work

    November 12th, 2018  |  Season 1  |  42 mins 18 secs

    This episode marks the beginning of a new series centered around the topic of getting your first job as a junior developer. In this episode Ben and Brian provide an overview of the things you might be concerned with regarding the hiring process. In...

  • Episode 5: Learn on Your Own

    October 29th, 2018  |  Season 1  |  48 mins 30 secs

    Jonny B and Caleb Stultz are here to discuss their own paths to development and what it's like to now be teaching others to code. Topics include things they wish they'd known when they started, how much work really goes into making online coding...