Model View Conversation

America's Premier Tech Education Podcast

About the show

Ben Gohlke and Brian Gates discuss how to get started and get ahead in the ever changing industry of software development. Current senior developers in their respective fields and former bootcamp instructors, Brian and Ben help to decipher the myriad options available to new engineers just starting out and how to navigate the educational and institutional challenges of the tech industry.

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  • 27: The Old Man and the C

    November 11th, 2019  |  Season 2  |  45 mins 53 secs

    Ben and Brian chat with their first returning guest of the podcast, Ben's dad Joe! He's back and he's got news (and a little wisdom) to share with everyone. Listen to find out what it's like to be on the job hunt at 60 years old and how the challenges faced in that scenario are in some ways remarkably similar to when you're just starting out in your career.

  • 26: Jump in an Elevator and Talk to Yourself

    October 28th, 2019  |  Season 2  |  1 hr 6 mins

    Ben and Brian dive into a discussion about how to sell yourself during the interview process. They talk about the importance of having a personal elevator pitch, how to change your approach with each kind of person you'll encounter in the interview, and how best to approach each step to ensure you've done your best to showcase your skills and abilities.

  • 25: Refill Your Social Battery

    October 7th, 2019  |  Season 2  |  59 mins 49 secs

    The guys run through the advantages and usefulness of attending and potentially speaking at technical conferences. They provide advice on how to find the right conference and techniques for maximizing your experience while you're there.

  • 24: A Need to Nerd Basis

    September 23rd, 2019  |  Season 2  |  58 mins 29 secs

    The guys sit down with Lee Warrick, a junior front end web developer who recently attended a local bootcamp after years of being a firefighter and nurse. They talk about his transition from healthcare to programming, how the college experience differed from his development training, how he keeps his skills sharp on the job, and how you can run a bunch of extracurricular activities for developers, but maybe just attending some is at least as effective a use of your time.

  • 23: Refill Your Tank with Fun

    September 2nd, 2019  |  Season 2  |  56 mins 28 secs

    Ben and Brian discuss the importance of nurturing other interests besides coding, and how to maintain a healthy work/life balance. Whether you're just starting out, in the middle of an intense school program, or involved in a busy work schedule, it's important to give yourself opportunities to engage in life outside of code. Also, it's our 1 year anniversary! Thanks so much for listening, and we're super excited for the next year of the podcast!

  • 22: Jack of All Trades, Master of One

    August 19th, 2019  |  Season 2  |  1 hr 2 mins

    Ben and Brian discuss how the educational landscape has changed since they became educators. They touch on how to create a nurturing classroom environment despite the pacing of the technology industry and both the improvements and setbacks in they've experienced in teaching and mentoring on software development.

  • Episode 21: Tell Your Story

    August 5th, 2019  |  Season 2  |  1 hr 10 secs

    Season 2 has arrived and Ben and Brian are back after a much appreciated hiatus! Thanks for sticking with us. On the season premiere episode, they discuss how to build a public narrative around your current career achievements as well as the goals you...

  • Episode 20: The Differently Technical

    June 10th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 1 min

    Welcome to the season finale of Model View Conversation! We hope you've enjoyed learning and growing with us. It's been almost a year since we started the show, which is hard to believe. Even though this is the end of season 1, don't worry. We've got...

  • Episode 19: Ways to Learn, Part II

    May 27th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  51 mins 50 secs

    The guys return to finish their discussion of the different ways you can engage in learning about programming. This time they delve into online courses, bootcamp and other concentrated learning environments, and the importance of building stuff on...

  • Episode 18: Ways to Learn, Part I

    May 13th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  46 mins 30 secs

    Ben and Brian discuss many different ways you can get started and learn about programming. So many ways in fact, we had to break it up into two parts! In this one we talk about books, online tutorials, and podcasts. If none of those work for you, fear...

  • Episode 17: The Invention of Fire

    April 28th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 25 secs

    Ben and Brian discuss what it's like working with non-technical people or for a fundamentally non-technical company and how to navigate that as a programmer. They share their experiences with that at previous and current jobs as well as their best...

  • Episode 16: Not an Imposter

    April 1st, 2019  |  Season 1  |  54 mins 24 secs

    Ben and Brian discuss the important phenomenon of imposter syndrome and how it can create real roadblocks for developers in their career advancement. They discuss their own struggles with it both as juniors and even now as senior devs and what can be...

  • Episode 15: We Were All Young Once

    March 19th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 15 mins

    On this very special episode of Model View Conversation, the guys interview one of Ben's former iOS students, Shane Nelson, to see what he's been up to since graduation and how his career has progressed. Shane also has some questions for the hosts on...

  • Episode 14: Don't Cross the Streams

    March 4th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  22 mins 9 secs

    We have an exciting announcement we wanted to share. This is not like our usual episodes, but don't worry, we'll be back with our regularly scheduled programming next time. Please consider checking out our livestreams if live coding and seeing the...

  • Episode 13: The Colonel's Secret Recipe

    February 18th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  55 mins 38 secs

    Ben and Brian talk about where and how they do their daily work and offer advice about how to stay focused when working in potentially busy environments. They end by venturing into a couple of the more popular programming religious wars (spaces ftw!)....

  • Episode 12: Interview with an Interviewer

    February 4th, 2019  |  Season 1  |  59 mins 15 secs

    Ben and Brian are joined this time by their friend and former colleague David Rogers. He's a senior web developer and educator based in Durham, North Carolina. They cover everything from his career history so far to his extensive experience vetting...